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Can someone explain something about last night's episode of NCIS to me. I think the episode was called Love and Honor or Honor and Love.

Okay, I understand that the dead sailor was the serial kiler. The scene near the end is what confuses me. It was the conversation between that woman they had been looking for and the guy. Somehow the serial killer ended up ingesting his own poison he was intending to give to that woman. I didn't understand the relationship between the man and woman talking in that alley and how the serial killer ended up taking his own poison.

I have another question to those of you who watched JAG all the way to the end.

Did Clayton Webb ever appear on the show again after they found him and discovered he was alive? (Referring to his second faked death in the series)
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Date: 2007-02-14 11:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sg-lab.livejournal.com
At the end of the second to last season I believe Clayton was on some ship and there was some accident and several people apparently were killed. Mac had been trying to find Webb and Sturges (what was his full name?) accidently saw some files of those listed among the dead. Webb's picture was one of them. I don't recall the rest exactly, but Webb was being chased by someone who was trying to kill him. So he faked his death.

I was watching on and off until the last season when I quit at the beginning of it. Harm/Mac was the least of my issues with the show. Personally I thought Mac was crazy to want to be with Harm.

Actually I never expected anything less than being played around with regarding the ship. I've learned most shows are not going to put the two leading characters together until the very last minute if at all. That's why I prefer the secondary ships like Bud/Harriet.
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Date: 2007-02-15 12:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sg-lab.livejournal.com
There was a time when JAG became more of an ensamble show instead of the "Harmon Rabb" show and I was enjoying it, but then it just reverted back and I it was all about Harm as well as Harm/Mac. That's when I lost interest.

My viewing of the show over the ten years was sporadic. I quit watching at one point and one evening I was flipping through the channels when I came to the end of the episode where Bud received his injury resulting in his leg being amputated. I started watching it again to see Bud's story arc more than anything and once that was over it held no more interest for me.

No, he did not.

Date: 2007-02-14 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katelennon.livejournal.com
He was in the first episode of the last season, but as he was then a regular on Desperate Housewives, Steven Culp did not appear after "the beach scene".

I hate Don Bellisario for frakking with me all those years. It's why I won't commit to NCIS. Oh, I like Ducky and Abby and the Newbie. Hell I even have warm fuzzies for Tony and Gibbs, but I've learned that DPB will never give the viewer what they want. I've watched Tales of the Gold Monkey, Magnum, Quantam and Jag and no more. I may have been slow, but I learned my lesson and no more love from me to them.

Re: No, he did not.

Date: 2007-02-14 11:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sg-lab.livejournal.com
Thanks. :) I figured he wasn't in anymore episodes beyond that one with his role on Desperate Housewives.

I really wish they hadn't put Mac and Webb together, not because of Harm/Mac, but because I felt it interferred with the relationship between Clayton and Harm. They had an interesting dynamic and we never got to see that anymore.

I'm not sure that it made a difference

Date: 2007-02-15 03:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katelennon.livejournal.com
They ruined Webb because Steven Culp got a real gig on DH. Don Bellisario is not what I would call a forgiving sort of person, look at what he did to DJE when he dared ask for more $, being on a top 20 show for 8+years- it was unforgivable, IMO and disrespectful to the fans. So, it was no suprise to me that they dissed Webb. Although, I thought the last scene of them on the beach was a really good one. To be fair, though, we didn't really see much of the Webb/Harm dynamic after the 5th season, it was just the same old, same old. They didn't evolve as friends and they brought in Sergei the half!Russian!brother and effectively destroyed that relationship.

I promised myself I wouldn't get so emotional about JAG anymore, damnit. I know DJE is a prettyboy drama queen and that DPB is a royal bastard, but I loved Bud and Harriet and Cheggs and Tiner and Gunny and hell, Sturgis, too.

I am still emotionally attached to this show, doubletripledamnit.

Re: I'm not sure that it made a difference

Date: 2007-02-15 04:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sg-lab.livejournal.com
I never got into JAG fandom or read anything behind the scenes. I just watched the show. I've only just started reading comments from fans about DPB so I really can't comment on that.

but I loved Bud and Harriet and Cheggs and Tiner and Gunny and hell, Sturgis, too.

These were the characters that kept me coming back. I think Cheggwidden's departure was really the straw that broke the camels back for me. I never watched the show with the new commanding officer. I watched a few episodes while Sturgis was filling in. What was Sturgis full name? I could never remember which was his first name. It was very unusual.

Sturgis was his first name

Date: 2007-02-15 01:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katelennon.livejournal.com
Scott Lawrence played him. He was Lt. Commander Sturgis Turner. He has this amazing voice, very smooth and he was a bit of a straight-liner, who made Harm look all the more "renegade".

Ha.Double Ha.

Did I mention that Cheggs has turned up as Booth's boss on "Bones". Just another reason to love that show. Seriously.

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